Joseph Thompson

M, #20, b. between 1810 and 1815

Charts Pedigree - grandmother Carrie Adeline Thompson
Reference 2G Grf

CAUTION* Be sure to look below all the rest of Joseph's information to see notes regarding research on this family. 
Birth*between 1810 and 1815 Joseph Thompson was born between 1810 and 1815 at South Carolina Age 35 in 1850 census, age 50 in 1860 census, both say born SC. 
CAUTION* Joseph Thompson and Elizabeth (__________) have the following CAUTIONARY INFORMATION: Another potential mother for Joseph is this Elizabeth who was in Gilmer County in 1850. However, she was from North Carolina, and the other candidate mother was from South Carolina. 
(Witness) CAUTION Joseph Thompson, Aaron Thompson and Ruth (__________): have the following CAUTIONARY INFORMATION: Joseph's potential parents could be this Aaron and Ruth They are old enough that it is reasonable to assume there might have been children prior to the ones shown on the 1850 census. Ruth and children are not in the same militia district, but still not that far apart.
Quoting Annelise "Looking through the census info at this time, there are very few Thompsons in Gilmer coming from South Carolina at this time. I was intrigued to realize that your Joseph Thompson also came from South Carolina. I also noted that his first child was born in 1845 in Georgia, also indicating he arrived in Gilmer at approximately the same time as our family. Also that he named one of his daughters Rutha (perhaps after his mother Ruth?) All interesting parallels that make me wonder if he could be part of our family? Perhaps an older brother, newly married that moved to Gilmer the same time his parents did. Of course he wouldn't show up in the 1850 census with them since he was married."1 
Event-Misc*  At Gilmer Co., Georgia, 1840 census entries are:
John Thompson 1011001-111001001
Linard Thompson 110001-11001
Erwin Thompson 001120001-00011001
John is probably the John E Price that was Captain of Mounted Volunteers of Gilmer Co from May 1838-Jul 1838 for Cherokee & Creek Indian War. He had a Samuel I Thompson as a private and a Samuel B Price on his military payroll.
Unknown how or if Linard or Erwin are related. 
(Witness) History Joseph Thompson witnessed Georgia counties immediately around Gilmer: Fannin to the north, Pickens/Cherokee to the south, Murray to the west, and Lumpkin, Davison, & Union to the east. East of them are several including Rabun. The NC counties in the vicinity are Cherokee, Clay, & Macon. SC counties in the vicinity are Pickens/Oconee, Pendleton, Anderson, Greenville, Spartanburg, Laurens, & Abbeville. at Georgia. 
Marriage*5 May 1842 He married Sarah Price, daughter of William Price and Nancy Downs, on 5 May 1842 at Ellijay, Gilmer Co., Georgia, Have marriage license (Evd 807) showing above date of 5th, but no return so don't know actual date of marriage. 
Census1850*1850 Joseph Thompson appeared on the 1850 census as the head of household, pg 354 #77-77, Division 33, Gilmer Co., Georgia along with Nancy A Thompson, Elizabeth Thompson, Caroline Thompson, Josephus Thompson, Mary I Thompson and Sarah Price . His info on the census included Thompson, Joseph 35 b.SC farmer $100 - though he shows as having land, I can't find a land record for him. 
Census1860*1860 Joseph Thompson appeared on the 1860 census as the head of household, pg 88 #681-594, Subdivision 33, Gilmer Co., Georgia along with William Thompson, Sarah Price, Nancy A Thompson, Elizabeth Thompson, Caroline Thompson, Josephus Thompson, Benjamin Thompson, Sarah Thompson and Rutha(?) Thompson . His info on the census included Thompson, Joseph 50 b.SC farmer - no land but $75 personal property. 
Note Joseph Thompson Connecting proof that these are John J's parents is that Joseph Thompson and Sarah Price are listed as parents on John J's marriage application, and that he was from Gilmer County GA. 
Census1870*1870 He appeared on the 1870 census as the head of household, an unknown place . His info on the census included WHERE ON EARTH DID THIS FAMILY DISAPPEAR TO FOR THE 1870 CENSUS?
NOT IN FOLLOWING: Gilmer, Murray, Fannin (GA), or in what's readable of Blount, (AL). Most Thompsons in SC 1870 index are black. One white Joseph age 53 Spartanburg has wife Margaret & has black Thompsons next door. There is a possible on pg 463 of Cicero Twnshp, Tipton Co IN, a 60 year old farmer b.GA, living on farm of Isaac Collings, but he is a farm laborer and there is no apparent connection other than employee. The Joseph age 56 on pg 487 Monroe Twp, Morgan, IN is not him. The Joseph age 56 on pg 225 VanBuren Twn, Madison, IN is not him.
Not in these state indexes: AL, CA, CO, GA, ID, IN, IL, KY, MN, MT, NC, NM, SC, TN
OH partial - not the Joseph in Cincinnati w1 pg 111, w8 pgs 177, 181, 186
Ones to try
THOMPSON JOSEPH Age: 54 W Birth Place: SC State: MS County: SMITH Locale: SYLVARENA PO Page: 422
THOMPSON J Age: 55 Birth Place: SC State: AL County: JEFFERSON Locale: JONESBORO PO Page: 420.


 
Census18801880 He appeared on the 1880 census as the head of household, an unknown place . His info on the census included No likely candidates in soundex for IN, GA, KY, TN, NC, SC. (Ckd T512 all the kids names, and T525 Joseph, Nancy, & Sarah only). 
Negative  The 1840 census has another Thompson in Gilmer who is NOT related.
     Samuel J Thompson died 1860 and possibly changed name from Burk. He was born in Elizabethtown PA about 1805, then to Ashville NC. He marr Sarah Carter 1810 in Bunscomb Co NC then to Gilmer county circa 1834-37. This per conversation with Peggy McCarley who was G Grdau of Samuel thru his son James J.
     Gene Teague is also descended from this Samuel and confirms that Samuel J was born Burke and took on Thompson name as he was raised by them. Peggy address Rt 1 Box 182-P Blue Ridge TX 75004 phone 214-752-5090 - her Root Celler entries (30166) were: James J Thompson resided 1850 Gilmer (her grandfather), Lidia Thompson died 1875 Gilmer, and Samuel J Thompson died 1860 (g grandfather).
Samuel's 1840 entry is 010001-221001.
The 1880 Ellijay 105th district, Gilmer, GA pg 550 has the following:.
Thompson, Sarah 70 NC VA VA.
     Dorcus 40 GA PA NC dau.
     Sarah 34 GA PA NC dau.
     Benjamin 10 GA GA GA grson.
     Joseph 4 GA GA GA grson.
This Sarah Thompson is Sarah (Carter) widow of the above Samuel J Thompson. 
Note* He Additional notes of importance for the Thompson research.

Some Thompson marriages in Gilmer Co Georgia per SLC 0219505.
George Thompson 30 Dec 1847 Maryan Butler pg 227.
Frederick Thompson 13 Mar 1853 Sarah Love pg 22.
James J Thompson 22 Sep 1859 Lidia Teague pg 160.
Monroe Thompson 9 Aug 1868 Narcissa Bright pg 256.
William Latty 24 Sep 1854 Olivet Thompson pg 63.
Women aren't indexed, didn't go thru them.

Misc notes regarding deeds I found in microfilms of Gilmer County Georgia.
film 0219478. (grantee=EE - grantor=OR - description - page).
Jthn Thompson OR - George Foster EE 308-9-2 pg 107
(Jonathan is of Rabun County and the date is 1833, sworn 1841, registered 1847).
Philip Thompson OR - Samuel Davis EE 233-24-2 pg 515
(Philip Root Thompson of Richmond Co 1838).
Salvador Thompson EE - William H Stone OR 93-7-2 pg 225
(Salvador of Walton Co 1840something).
John Thompson EE - Willis Jones OR 193-6-2 pg 185
(John of Gilmer Co 1848).
film 0219479.
Jonathan Thompson OR - Thos Morris EE 308-9 pg 70
(Jonathan of Cass Co 1859).
James Y Thompson OR - Matthew R Stonsell EE 182-9 pg 523
(James of Newton Co 1853).
no seperate EE index but skimming shows.
Isam Thompson EE - Samuel Lovingood 55-6-2 pg 74
(Isam of Gilmer 1851) (In 1900 soundex there is an Isom or Isam Thompson in
Jefferson Co born Apr 1867 ED etc=42-26-7-86. Maybe a son of above?

Thompsons in 1870 Gilmer Co Georgia.
# 93.
J W Thompson b.1845 GA ($100 real estate).
Elizabeth b.1847 NC.
Rose L b.1868 GA.
Sarah J b.1869 GA.
# 231.
Isom Thompson b.1786 SC ($150 real estate).
Elizabeth b.1789 SC.
# 208.
John Thompson b.1800 GA. 2 doors from George.
# 206.
George Thompson b.1825 GA (marr 30 Dec 1847 Mary Ann Butler SLC 219505 pg 227).
Mary Ann b.1831 NC.
Sarah P b.1849 GA.
Martha A b.1850 GA.
William b.1857 GA.
Elizabeth b.1855 GA.
Joan b.1857 GA.
Margaret b.1861 GA.
John b.1866 GA.
Lodema b.1868 GA.
Rebecca L b.Mar 1870 GA.
# 41.
John Thompson b.1818 SC. (marr 19 Aug 1855 Susan Logan SLC 219505 pg 66 v.2).
Susannah b.1834 NC.
Cinthia A b.1857 GA.
Mary E b.1861 GA.
Sarah A b.1862 GA.
Margaret C b.1865 GA.
Levada W b.1868 GA (female).
# 54.
Sally Thompson b.1811 NC (possibly nee Carter) ($100 real estate).
Martha C b.1836 NC.
Darkey b.1843 GA.
Sally b.1848 GA.
Henry Carter b.1775 NC.

Thompsons in 1870 Murray Co Georgia.
pg 504A Sarah Thompson age 36 b.GA in house of David & Amanda Taylor Age is right that she could be a married daughter of them, or she could not be related at all.
pg 513 John W Thompson age 3 b.GA in house of Stephen & Margaret Gregory (no one else in household.
pg 517A Susan Thompson age 70 b.NC in house of Samuel & Jane Grigsby who are also both age 70.

Pickens Co History has brothers Lewis and William Thompson. A study of records in courthouse show nothing to believe that they are in any way related, although Lewis (b.1820/21 NC) had kids Eliza (Elizabeth b.1840), Mary J (b.1844, Nancy A (b.1852), Caroline (b.1854), & John (b.1855) - same as Joseph & Sarah had. Of course they ARE common names. Lewis also had son Clark (b.1846). Jack Thompson of Chattanooga TN is a desc of Lewis. He says there are lots of Thompsons in Talking Rock Cemetery, but cemetery listing doesn't show any of mine. Lewis was in the Pickens Co voting record of 1896-7 age 75 diest or ward #1101 with others.

SLC 1730424 Georgia Salt Books has heads of families who supplied salt in the civil war. Gilmer County on pgs 162-3 shows the following names.
J. Price O. Price T. Price.
S. Thompson J. Thompson.
Pages 500+ shows names of wives of soldiers now in service.
Mrs M.E. Thompson Mrs Mary Thompson Mrs Peggy Thompson.
Mrs Olive Latty (she was a Thompson) Mrs Jane Price.

Thompsons in 1870 Murray Co GA census (where Nancy Downs Price moved).
pg 535 Thompson Andrew 46 Farmer 400-200 GA.
Parthenia 46 Keep House GA.
Moses J 22 Works on R.R. GA.
Halverson Michael 10 Farm Laborer GA.
pg 535 - right next door.
Thompson John 71 Farmer 500-200 SC.
Lucinda 46 Keep House SC.
William 6 At Home GA.
pg 537 1013th District
Thompson Jesse 64 SC.
Violet E 52 NC.
Lydia 22 GA.
Gilford M 19 GA. 
Negative*  SLC films with neg results:
0159197
0219520
0323742 (Conf pensions for Gilmer - no Thompsons)
1578465
1578466. 

Family

Sarah Price b. bt 17 Jul 1817 - 13 Aug 1817, d. 16 Feb 1864
Marriage*5 May 1842 He married Sarah Price, daughter of William Price and Nancy Downs, on 5 May 1842 at Ellijay, Gilmer Co., Georgia, Have marriage license (Evd 807) showing above date of 5th, but no return so don't know actual date of marriage. 
Children

Last Edited 6 Mar 2005

Citations

  1. [S1617] "email from siblings Jared & Annelise to Kathryn," e-mail message from Jared Lothyan & Annelise Kimball, e-mail address & e-mail address to Kathryn Bassett, Oct 2004 +.